Joana Moll is an artist and researcher whose practice exposes the invisible infrastructures of the internet, the ecological cost of the click, the intimacy we surrender without realizing it, and the opaque economies that sustain the web. Wassim Z. Alsindi is co-founder of 0xSalon and an independent researcher. His work moves between philosophy, cryptography, and digital culture, investigating the forms of power, identity, and truth that shape the contemporary internet.

In the 1990s, the internet seemed like a promise: a horizontal, decentralized, and free network. A utopia. Three decades later, that promise has turned into an architecture of surveillance, an attention market, and a physical infrastructure that consumes land, water, and energy. The word privacy has gradually lost its meaning until it has been reduced to a box we tick without reading.

In this conversation, Moll and Alsindi take a hard look at the internet we have today and ask what happened along the way. What we chose, what was chosen for us, and what we can still choose.